Nearly everyone who has researched making money online has probably run into internet marketers.
These are the guys with websites that look a lot like this.
I’ve never subscribed to one of these sites, preferring to sit back and read what the blogs are saying but over time it’s hard not to become quite cynical.
It’s pretty much one big multi-level marketing scheme, in reality.
Rich Schefren runs coaching programs on how to make money on the internet. The problem is, the people he’s coaching are also running programs on how to make money from the internet. Mike Filsaime is the most famous student of Rich Schefren. He has all sorts of ‘make money from the net’ websites. Reading his testimonials, it looks like all his successful students are selling us programs telling us… how to make money from the internet. One wonders how they would envisage me, as a student, making money online. Perhaps by teaching others how to do so? Hmm…
Do any of their students ever actually sell STUFF? As in, real things? It’s just one big loop! Or even if they’re just selling electronic products, are any of them selling something NOT about making money from the internet (or something closely correlated to it)?
Yaro Starak, another Schefren devotee, owns (or used to own) BetterEdit.com. A legitimate enterprise, editing the work of students around the world. He started the blog Entrepreneurs-Journey.com to talk about this and also other aspects of business. After a while the content started on a downward slide to the point that he was almost continually talking about internet marketing products and the exruciatingly long upcoming launch of his Blog Traffic King program (although I think the name has now been amended to Blog Mastermind.) He’s now a ‘name’ in the internet marketing sphere but at what cost? By far his most interesting posts were the ones talking about the actual progression of his business. I miss them.
As an aside, the best thing Starak ever did was introduce me to the free books of Rich Schefren. Ignore his painful sales babble and just read the books, all of which have a couple of really good nuggets.
Another area is blogging. Darren Rowse is a big leader in the ‘how to blog professionally’ category. John Chow followed in ‘how to make money online’ and has spawned a whole army of followers who are all competing with him on the same ‘make money online’ keyword. They’re competing… ….with the guru. I don’t get it.
Blogs with semi-decent content about blogging can pick up 1000 RSS readers almost overnight. But the competition is growing as everyone is trying to get in on the Rowse and Chow pie. Meanwhile, the readership of both Rowse and Chow keeps on going up, and up, and up (and good on them for it).
Both of them are very credible in their own right: Rowse has a digital photography blog with more than 20,000 readers. Chow has a tech website which is his main source of income (scary, given that his blog generates US$12,500 a month.) The readers of both sets of blogs would do much better striking out on their own.
I honestly believe blogging for money is best left alone. To help promote a product, sure : David Airey does it brilliantly. But specifically to rake in advertising revenue? Even dumblittleman.com has 70,000 RSS subscribers but if you look at the cost of advertising yourself you’ll see he’s barely making anything.
There is money to be made, definitely, but the percentage of people succeeding in any real way is so tiny. A guru with thousands of devoted followers should be making more than $12,500 a month. If that’s what the BEST is making, imagine what’s left for the rest of us.
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August 6, 2007 at 11:07 am
dave
Do any of them ACTUALLY sell anything? hahaha… thats hilarious.
12500 a month isnt bad. but ur rite. Doesnt leave much room for the inferiors does it.
August 6, 2007 at 5:48 pm
David Airey :: Graphic Designer
Hi Mat,
Thanks for the kind mention, and you write an interesting article. The thing with my site is that it’s used to attract design clients, so to have an excess of advertising would be off-putting.
There is a little advertising on my site, but I keep it to a minimum. Besides, I’ve not yet been blogging for a year, and I think that’s when you’ll have the best idea of what route to take your site.
August 6, 2007 at 5:51 pm
John
It’s odd as there’s plenty of scope to sell real products (directly or as an affiliate) and make money from those.
August 6, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Markk
I think you’ve hit on something here, Mat. The blogging for cash thing for most people will only get them spare change, as in most markets with a very low entry level.
Sure, there are a few making decent money, but there are millions of blogs out there.
I do enjoy John Chow’s blog, if only because he’ll try anything once and sets the trend for everyone else.
August 6, 2007 at 7:01 pm
admin
Thanks for stopping by Dave, David and John!
I’ve added your blog to my feed reader John, I love that kind of content. Business concepts is possibly my favourite blog topic in the whole world. (Along with Iraq it seems
)
August 6, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Yaro
Hey Mat,
I’m hope you are still reading my blog. I’m in the middle of a series on how to launch a membership site, which people have told me they are really enjoying - it’s all “how to” content.
Thanks for the mention.
Yaro
August 6, 2007 at 7:36 pm
admin
Actually I have just read this series before you commented and it’s very good.
Thanks for your gracious reply
August 6, 2007 at 8:10 pm
Mat
And it’s cool that I have had two 1000+ RSS reader bloggers comment here. Even though one of them I criticised a lot!
I have just flicked back to the start of July and it still stands. While I know Yaro is on an obviously profitable topic I yearn for the days of B.E. Although it is called “Entrepreneurs Journey.” I guess he’s journeyed
August 7, 2007 at 10:35 pm
Yaro
Lol, well unfortunately for you Mat the days of BE are almost over. I’ve sold the business (you heard it here first!) and besides a post announcing the sale and perhaps the odd post referring back to what I learned from running it, I don’t think it will feature much.
It’s funny - I remember some people wanted me to write more about the time I spent running an English school because they didn’t like the “Internet business stuff” as much.
The saying holds true - you can’t please all of the people all of the time…
August 8, 2007 at 5:16 am
Mat
I guess it does
One more thing if you visit back, I’ve emailed this to your helpdesk before for no reply, can you please refer me to a company in Australia that does poster sticking in Uni campuses.
August 9, 2007 at 12:10 am
Scott
The entire “making money online” blogosphere is almost an economy that sustains itself — there are just way too many people writing on this topic. As you said that it is nothing more than multi-level marketing. What products are they selling? Ebooks on how to make money online! So you too can become an marketing expert and write your own ebooks to sell to others who wish to learn how to make… Oh well.
Sure. There are lots of money to be made online. But most are pocket changes unless you are very popular (or very evil like John Chow).